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Reading through the latest Feminist sf carnival I hit some links which made me go "yes! That! Grr!". So I thought I would share the joy :)

Joss Whedon and feminist cookies Makes the point that one can (and should) acknowledge the effort of feminist writers like Joss Whedon..while still calling them on their mistakes. And oh, does he make some mistakes. Also, this comment captures some of the dodginess of the "Women corrupted by power" archetype.

On a similar subject Firefly: The Trouble With Saffron, on the fact that having a sweet innocent female victim of abuse who has pity taken on her turn out to be an evil sexy seductress is, uh, kind of creepy, especially given that it's done so often. I think there's a subtext to the "Turn a victimised group who 'everyone cares about' into the villain" thing which plays on the fact that deep down people don't want to sympathise with victims, and get annoyed at having to care about them, so get a real sense of catharsis from having them turn out to have been evil all along.

It got me thinking about the sheer absurd fetishisation of the "Woman who becomes evil automatically starts dressing an acting more sexily" thing. I'm not saying that women can't use sexuality to gain power, or that being sexy is inherently bad (or good) But it's just one way to be powerful, and it plays both into the "woman + sex=evil" trope and the "Women exist to serve men" trope (since she is titillating the male viewers rather than doing what makes sense for the character) It's way overdone in Supernatural, I'd love to see an evil female character who is genuinely gross (like, a zombie or something(*)) do the whole "creepy touching" thing (in order to deliberately creep the guy out, not in a failed attempt to be sexy), then it would be actually creepy rather than a thinly veiled excuse for men to despise the women they're attracted to. And why can't a woman be aggressively sexy and dressed in leather and not evil? Actually, I guess that was Xena. Yay Xena :) EDIT: Yeah, ok, so there's MANY counterexamples to this :)

EDIT: Oh hey, metafandom :) Man, I really didn't put much thought into this post, and now I have to justify my dodgy arguments with a fuzzy brain...All disclaimers are in operation!

(*)Except I hate zombies. Hmm.
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I've been trying to articulate a particular trope I absolutely can't stand for a while, and talking with Cam about the demons in Supernatural(*) crystalized it: when something horrible and unfair happens to someone, and as a result they "lose their humanity" and become a Bad Guy. The main context I'm thinking of is when your main characters' job is to hunt down bad guys, and this type of bad guy is used to create a little pathos before the inevitable thrilling showdown.

This trope is particularly odious when the "unfair thing" is some sort of real world injustice, and this bad guy is the only victim of it we meet. Thus implying that everyone who suffers this injustice becomes a crazy bad guy. Sexual assault (especially of children) is popular right now, but you also get female/non-white/GLBT characters who've cracked under the pressure of sexism/racism etc, or disabled/mutated/GLBT characters who've cracked under the strain of their own "freakishness". (See for example The X-Files, the Other, and the Mutant Enemy)

It's like writers want to play around with hot-button/emotionally affecting issues, but they can't bring their minds to accepting that the victims of these injustices are actual people, instead seeing them as an incomprehensibly broken Other.

As with lovable bastards, the other option is to have them die tragically/redemptively. This elevates them from bad guy to victim, but they still don't get to be an active, effective character choosing their own destiny. I think stories which introduce an unfair situation and then have everyone die can be very emotionally effective, but imo they're also somewhat lazy, because they give that catharsis of the problem being "resolved" without really looking at how it might actually be resolved.

I may stop there, I hope these posts don't leave me with a bunch of narky comments in the morning :)

EDIT (since [livejournal.com profile] penchaft complained): I can't find any tv tropes which are quite right, but here's Redemption=death, Bring Out Your Gay Dead, Freudian Excuse and In The Blood.

(*)which from the sound of things don't actually fulfill it since the demons literally stop being human. But they inspired me nonetheless :)

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