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As I discussed in Brief thoughts on the moral messages I got from Dollhouse, the good sf in Dollhouse (eps 1-12) was ruined for me by all the skeevy creepiness.

But! I just watched episode 13(*) and apart from a single gratuitous shower scene it really wasn't very skeevy at all. It's set ten years in the future when the mind-rewrite technology is totally not about prostitution any more, and had a bunch of cool sf. It mostly follows an entirely new cast and even summarised the main plot and concepts of the previous 12 episodes. I might be wrong but I think it would probably mostly make sense if you hadn't seen the show at all, though some scenes would seem totally random and a lot of the emotional depth would be missing. Huge spoilers, mind you, plus it would ruin you for the show by raising your expectations :)

So: recced to anyone who can't bring themselves to watch the show and feels like they're missing out, especially if you've watched the pilot so know the basic backstory. And I don't feel confident saying it's definitely not triggery but it's certainly better than a lot of the rest of the show.

I feel like soemone should edit out the good bits of the show into a shorter less creepy version. You'd get maybe 1 episode from the first 5, and then maybe 5 from the next seven :)

(*)Which was made for the dvd and not shown on American tv
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Reading through the latest Feminist sf carnival I hit some links which made me go "yes! That! Grr!". So I thought I would share the joy :)

Joss Whedon and feminist cookies Makes the point that one can (and should) acknowledge the effort of feminist writers like Joss Whedon..while still calling them on their mistakes. And oh, does he make some mistakes. Also, this comment captures some of the dodginess of the "Women corrupted by power" archetype.

On a similar subject Firefly: The Trouble With Saffron, on the fact that having a sweet innocent female victim of abuse who has pity taken on her turn out to be an evil sexy seductress is, uh, kind of creepy, especially given that it's done so often. I think there's a subtext to the "Turn a victimised group who 'everyone cares about' into the villain" thing which plays on the fact that deep down people don't want to sympathise with victims, and get annoyed at having to care about them, so get a real sense of catharsis from having them turn out to have been evil all along.

It got me thinking about the sheer absurd fetishisation of the "Woman who becomes evil automatically starts dressing an acting more sexily" thing. I'm not saying that women can't use sexuality to gain power, or that being sexy is inherently bad (or good) But it's just one way to be powerful, and it plays both into the "woman + sex=evil" trope and the "Women exist to serve men" trope (since she is titillating the male viewers rather than doing what makes sense for the character) It's way overdone in Supernatural, I'd love to see an evil female character who is genuinely gross (like, a zombie or something(*)) do the whole "creepy touching" thing (in order to deliberately creep the guy out, not in a failed attempt to be sexy), then it would be actually creepy rather than a thinly veiled excuse for men to despise the women they're attracted to. And why can't a woman be aggressively sexy and dressed in leather and not evil? Actually, I guess that was Xena. Yay Xena :) EDIT: Yeah, ok, so there's MANY counterexamples to this :)

EDIT: Oh hey, metafandom :) Man, I really didn't put much thought into this post, and now I have to justify my dodgy arguments with a fuzzy brain...All disclaimers are in operation!

(*)Except I hate zombies. Hmm.
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Dr. Horrible, Sartre, and why I'm not surprised: Interesting post arguing that the major message of Joss's work is "all of our efforts are really doomed because God doesn't exist and the universe doesn't care about us and the best we can do is pretend we don't know that". Spoilers for pretty much everything he's written, including for X-men etc (which I haven't read)

I and Cam were discussing it, and pretty much agreed that deaths in a Joss Whedon work (and there will be deaths) tend to divide not-so-neatly into "making a significant point about the unfairness of life" and "manipulative women-in-fridges". But even if you ignore the death there's still a general message that it is impossible to be 100% a hero, that the world sucks and the reward for a job well done is generally another job, plus quite plausibly the realisation that the job you just did didn't actually make any difference (or it made SOME difference, but the world still basically sucks)
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How is that that I find out that Joss Whedon has a new project from a doctor who macro? I rely on you people for this stuff you know!

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