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mmhm-vids reminded me how often I look back on stuff I was SUPER INTO as a kid and go "Ohhhh". I think I might have posted about this before but I'm DOING IT AGAIN.
These summaries are based on what I can remember, and thus are guaranteed to be skewed by child me's perception, watching the trailers is...odd.
Content note: consent issues.
EDIT ok so after some thought, two categories have emerged.
Femslashy female friendship:
A League Of Their Own: A sports movie about women playing baseball in...I think World War 2? Because the men were at war? LOTS of relationships between women, the central one is between two sisters but I remember Gina Davis's tsundere tomboy and Madonna's Sexy Catholic having an enemies-to-friends relationship I was very invested in (and it may have only happened in my heart). Tom Hanks was in it as The Obligatory Male Saviour but he was easy to ignore.
Anne of Green Gables: A lonely, creative, weird orphan makes a new friend and they are KINDRED SPIRITS and have INTENSE EMBRACES and even now when I see people talk about how cute her relationship with her canon love interest is I have this intense response of GILBERT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER ANNE/DIANA OTP. I think was like 28 before I went OH I SHIP THEM, before that I just hated him For Some Reason.
Beaches: Two women are SUPER CLOSE FRIENDS and hug a lot and are the most important people in each other's lives for DECADES and then one of them DIES and it is TRAGIC. I don't remember any men but suspect I just erased them from the narrative. *Reads summary*. Ah! There are men, but the women's relationship is more important and supportive, and they end up mothers to the same daughter. (Also I think it was to some extent about Jewishness?)
Fried Green Tomatoes: So apparently this was based on a f/f book but they turned it into friendship for the movie >:( It was still Quite Gay, and the story is all about women supporting each other. The trailer is actually gayer than I remembered it. Also, goddamn, Mary-Louise Parker o.O
Little Women: So like everyone I Related to tomboy writer Jo super hard. I was actually kind of into her canon love interest, I guess because my only f/f options were her sisters which is not my jam, but didn't like how she became more of a Wife. I've seen quotes from Louisa May Alcott which give the impression she'd have been a bi trans man/otherwise transmasculine if that was an option.
Jane Eyre: I actually forgot how incredibly femslashly this is untillilacsigil reminded me, since I am also really into the m/f endgame ship. But she is SO IN LOVE with her two female BFFs, and later rejects a conventional Good Wife role for passion and truth (with a terrible dude, but one she really loves).
Male characters who are nonsexual, non-macho, passive, objectified, and treated as inherently Lesser. Probably: only accepted due to some sort of Fake Role, close to a female character who is the dominant one.
(See: why I don't relate to most male characters despite being transmasculine)
Xmen cartoon tv show: *insert gay metaphor here* I shipped Professor X/Magneto so hard I vaguely recall actually realising I was shipping them. One of my few childhood m/m otps, I think men have to be marginalised before I like them. (I also shipped Rogue/Gambit super hard but so did everyone)
Charlotte's Web: A sweet male pig is saved from being eaten by a female spider who creates cool webs over his stall that people think mean HE is special instead of her.
Black Beauty: a sweet woobie male horse in 19th century England does his best to be a Good Horse. He's friends with a bitter, traumatised tsundere lady horse.
Trading Places and Brewster's Millions: a poor-ish black guy is used as a pawn by rich white dudes, and manages to triumph over them in the end. There's probably something very dark to be said about either me or 1980s cinema that this list is animals, black guys, mutants, and a child :/
**Content note: consent issues**
Big: A 12 year old boy suddenly becomes physically 30 and has to live as an adult, with all the advantages and disadvantages that brings, and also dates a 30 year old woman. I rewatched it as an adult and went HOLY HELL CONSENT ISSUES HE IS TWELVE but when I was 12 I was super into it.
Some of my favourites that didn't fit: The Chronicles of Narnia, Discworld, The Witches, others I've forgotten. Hmm, main pattern I'm picking up there is that I'm a furry >.>
Also something I've noticed about myself is how drawn I am to stories set in societies with a strong emphasis on politeness and social order: 19th century England/US/Canada, and Japan. I'm not 100% sure why, maybe because my personality has always felt a bit neurotic for the loud chaos of modern Australia? Or conversely because I like seeing people escape those expectations?
These summaries are based on what I can remember, and thus are guaranteed to be skewed by child me's perception, watching the trailers is...odd.
Content note: consent issues.
EDIT ok so after some thought, two categories have emerged.
Femslashy female friendship:
A League Of Their Own: A sports movie about women playing baseball in...I think World War 2? Because the men were at war? LOTS of relationships between women, the central one is between two sisters but I remember Gina Davis's tsundere tomboy and Madonna's Sexy Catholic having an enemies-to-friends relationship I was very invested in (and it may have only happened in my heart). Tom Hanks was in it as The Obligatory Male Saviour but he was easy to ignore.
Anne of Green Gables: A lonely, creative, weird orphan makes a new friend and they are KINDRED SPIRITS and have INTENSE EMBRACES and even now when I see people talk about how cute her relationship with her canon love interest is I have this intense response of GILBERT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER ANNE/DIANA OTP. I think was like 28 before I went OH I SHIP THEM, before that I just hated him For Some Reason.
Beaches: Two women are SUPER CLOSE FRIENDS and hug a lot and are the most important people in each other's lives for DECADES and then one of them DIES and it is TRAGIC. I don't remember any men but suspect I just erased them from the narrative. *Reads summary*. Ah! There are men, but the women's relationship is more important and supportive, and they end up mothers to the same daughter. (Also I think it was to some extent about Jewishness?)
Fried Green Tomatoes: So apparently this was based on a f/f book but they turned it into friendship for the movie >:( It was still Quite Gay, and the story is all about women supporting each other. The trailer is actually gayer than I remembered it. Also, goddamn, Mary-Louise Parker o.O
Little Women: So like everyone I Related to tomboy writer Jo super hard. I was actually kind of into her canon love interest, I guess because my only f/f options were her sisters which is not my jam, but didn't like how she became more of a Wife. I've seen quotes from Louisa May Alcott which give the impression she'd have been a bi trans man/otherwise transmasculine if that was an option.
Jane Eyre: I actually forgot how incredibly femslashly this is until
lilacsigil reminded me, since I am also really into the m/f endgame ship. But she is SO IN LOVE with her two female BFFs, and later rejects a conventional Good Wife role for passion and truth (with a terrible dude, but one she really loves).Male characters who are nonsexual, non-macho, passive, objectified, and treated as inherently Lesser. Probably: only accepted due to some sort of Fake Role, close to a female character who is the dominant one.
(See: why I don't relate to most male characters despite being transmasculine)
Xmen cartoon tv show: *insert gay metaphor here* I shipped Professor X/Magneto so hard I vaguely recall actually realising I was shipping them. One of my few childhood m/m otps, I think men have to be marginalised before I like them. (I also shipped Rogue/Gambit super hard but so did everyone)
Charlotte's Web: A sweet male pig is saved from being eaten by a female spider who creates cool webs over his stall that people think mean HE is special instead of her.
Black Beauty: a sweet woobie male horse in 19th century England does his best to be a Good Horse. He's friends with a bitter, traumatised tsundere lady horse.
Trading Places and Brewster's Millions: a poor-ish black guy is used as a pawn by rich white dudes, and manages to triumph over them in the end. There's probably something very dark to be said about either me or 1980s cinema that this list is animals, black guys, mutants, and a child :/
**Content note: consent issues**
Big: A 12 year old boy suddenly becomes physically 30 and has to live as an adult, with all the advantages and disadvantages that brings, and also dates a 30 year old woman. I rewatched it as an adult and went HOLY HELL CONSENT ISSUES HE IS TWELVE but when I was 12 I was super into it.
Some of my favourites that didn't fit: The Chronicles of Narnia, Discworld, The Witches, others I've forgotten. Hmm, main pattern I'm picking up there is that I'm a furry >.>
Also something I've noticed about myself is how drawn I am to stories set in societies with a strong emphasis on politeness and social order: 19th century England/US/Canada, and Japan. I'm not 100% sure why, maybe because my personality has always felt a bit neurotic for the loud chaos of modern Australia? Or conversely because I like seeing people escape those expectations?
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Date: 2019-09-03 03:33 am (UTC)I didn't watch Beaches as a kid (though I was the right age to see it in my early teens) but I did see it as an adult and shipping them like crazy.
And the X-Men cartoon, hell yeah!
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Date: 2019-09-03 03:54 am (UTC)You're absolutely right, brb moving Jane Eyre and Black Beauty up to the Queer section.
I'm not sure I could watch Beaches now, my tolerance for tragedy has gone waaay down.
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Date: 2019-09-03 10:55 am (UTC)*waves*
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Date: 2019-09-05 09:19 am (UTC)I'm glad! waves back
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Date: 2019-09-03 11:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-09-05 09:16 am (UTC)Ooh, ok, I should! adds to to-read list
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Date: 2019-09-05 09:59 am (UTC)How about Famous Five? That's the most obviously queer as heck childhood favourite of mine!
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Date: 2019-09-07 11:05 am (UTC)Yeah I never forgave him for that either. But I've forgiven many MUCH worse canon love interests (see: Jane Eyre) and usually "annoying but not evil LI from a book I read as a kid" wouldn't cause such INTENSE antipathy in me as an adult.
I totally forgot the Famous Five! But yes, I adored them too.