The Dark Knight
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alias_sqbrIS AWESOME GO SEE IT NOW. NOW!!
That said, two non-spoilery things I think should have been in the film but weren't:
1)Commissioner Gordon's kids play a small part in the film. The son gets a few lines and all the attention, and is shown looking up to Batman. That character? Has, afaict, absolutely no interesting canon backstory. The daughter had no lines and may as well have not been there, despite the fact that she goes on to become batgirl (and her backstory involves the Joker!). It would have been much cooler to focus on her in a foreshadowing/reference sort of way, but nooo the golden haired boy is more engaging >:/
2) The posters for the movie showed a giant flaming bat symbol on a skyscraper, and there was none in the film. I WANT MY GIANT FLAMING BAT SYMBOL.
EDIT: suddenly realises this is a perfect opportunity to use my old default icon :)
I love that the joker kept changing his backstory to suit the person he was trying to freak out.
"Either you die or you live long enough to become the enemy", and it's double use
OMG THEY KILLED RACHAEL. It may make me a bad feminist, but I actually liked it despite it being classic woman in a refrigerator. I guess because...she faced it so bravely, and it didn't actually affect Batman that much (professionally), it made Harvey all emo and irrational, and that was his flaw. Rachael herself saw that sort of thing as just part of the danger of her job (and love life)
Yay not all criminals are a faceless evil
Boo to me being able to go "Ah, a chinese business man, he must be a bad guy" (I realise it fitted the plot, but I think it could have ben done better)
Yay to the fact that noone becomes evil due to/in the process of being disfigured: I was worried this would be implied about Scarecrow, the Joker and Two face all at once in the same film (one I can live with but three?), but Scarecrow stayed pretty (for all 10 seconds he was on screen), I get the feeling the Joker went crazy first and scarred himself later, and for Harvey it was somewhat incidental (and he could have gotten fixed if he wanted)
The whole crazy=evil thing was still an issue imo but also not as bad as it might have been, and of course you also have "batman=crazy=good".
The Joker's plans were a bit Xanatos Gambit-y (ie how on EARTH could he expect Batman to get the fingerprint from his bullet?), but I have decided to fanwank it by saying he had lots of back-up plans and was flexible enough to run with whichever ones worked.
So I take it they didn't save everyone on that island at the end of the last film, and they all went insane? Even that engaging golden haired boy we met? Nice, somewhat spoils the "happy ending" :/
The world isn't fair but you soldier on anyway is a more complicated moral than you normally get from a superhero movie.
Is it just me or was Bruce making eyes at Harvety in the restaurant? And when Harvey talks about "the one you RELLY love" who else thought he meant Batman? Yeah, too much fanfic has rotted my brain :)
Overall? OMG AWESOME.
(This isn't really a full catalog of my thoughts, but just what comes to mind right now)
That said, two non-spoilery things I think should have been in the film but weren't:
1)Commissioner Gordon's kids play a small part in the film. The son gets a few lines and all the attention, and is shown looking up to Batman. That character? Has, afaict, absolutely no interesting canon backstory. The daughter had no lines and may as well have not been there, despite the fact that she goes on to become batgirl (and her backstory involves the Joker!). It would have been much cooler to focus on her in a foreshadowing/reference sort of way, but nooo the golden haired boy is more engaging >:/
2) The posters for the movie showed a giant flaming bat symbol on a skyscraper, and there was none in the film. I WANT MY GIANT FLAMING BAT SYMBOL.
EDIT: suddenly realises this is a perfect opportunity to use my old default icon :)
I love that the joker kept changing his backstory to suit the person he was trying to freak out.
"Either you die or you live long enough to become the enemy", and it's double use
OMG THEY KILLED RACHAEL. It may make me a bad feminist, but I actually liked it despite it being classic woman in a refrigerator. I guess because...she faced it so bravely, and it didn't actually affect Batman that much (professionally), it made Harvey all emo and irrational, and that was his flaw. Rachael herself saw that sort of thing as just part of the danger of her job (and love life)
Yay not all criminals are a faceless evil
Boo to me being able to go "Ah, a chinese business man, he must be a bad guy" (I realise it fitted the plot, but I think it could have ben done better)
Yay to the fact that noone becomes evil due to/in the process of being disfigured: I was worried this would be implied about Scarecrow, the Joker and Two face all at once in the same film (one I can live with but three?), but Scarecrow stayed pretty (for all 10 seconds he was on screen), I get the feeling the Joker went crazy first and scarred himself later, and for Harvey it was somewhat incidental (and he could have gotten fixed if he wanted)
The whole crazy=evil thing was still an issue imo but also not as bad as it might have been, and of course you also have "batman=crazy=good".
The Joker's plans were a bit Xanatos Gambit-y (ie how on EARTH could he expect Batman to get the fingerprint from his bullet?), but I have decided to fanwank it by saying he had lots of back-up plans and was flexible enough to run with whichever ones worked.
So I take it they didn't save everyone on that island at the end of the last film, and they all went insane? Even that engaging golden haired boy we met? Nice, somewhat spoils the "happy ending" :/
The world isn't fair but you soldier on anyway is a more complicated moral than you normally get from a superhero movie.
Is it just me or was Bruce making eyes at Harvety in the restaurant? And when Harvey talks about "the one you RELLY love" who else thought he meant Batman? Yeah, too much fanfic has rotted my brain :)
Overall? OMG AWESOME.
(This isn't really a full catalog of my thoughts, but just what comes to mind right now)
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Date: 2008-07-19 01:35 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-07-19 07:40 pm (UTC)The Batanimatrix (Batman: Gotham Knight) has a sequence which features the Narrows, basically the entire zip code's population is one giant prison called Arkham Asylum.
I'm pretty sure the otherwise useless version of Rachel from the first movie managed to rescue the kid.
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Date: 2008-07-20 01:38 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure the otherwise useless version of Rachel from the first movie managed to rescue the kid.
But what about all the other adorable children? And their kittens? Am I the only person who cares about the poor adorable crazy kittens?
Part of me was tempted to write a fic about it but (a) I do not write fic for a reason and (b) It kept turning into a leftist polemic about the cruelty of the state :D (with kittens)
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Date: 2008-07-20 12:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-20 02:09 pm (UTC)