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I keep almost making comments to reply to people making the argument in the subject of this post but then stopping when I realise they've gotten tl;dr and personal. Thus, a post. Warning: tl;dr and personal!
Most people are talking about fanfic but since I mostly make comics, that's what I'm mostly talking about (EDIT: See also All things to everyone about how if the standards you set don't make sense for fanart you're not being very helpful). And this is most definitely a way of me venting my irrational defensiveness. There are some genuine criticisms mixed in there too, but at the moment I'm not feeling objective enough to ferret them out!
My problem with this argument:
Not everyone who make a work feels certain if it's a fanwork or not, or even necessarily cares that much until they have to ask themselves "Is it ok to post this to the AO3?" or whatever. I realise people don't mean it that way, and I'm not sure how much of this is irrational defensiveness, but whenever anyone says "Well, as long as it feels like fanfic and was made for a fannish community" I don't feel more included but less.
Really important point: I have no better way of deciding what goes into the archive, or what counts as fanfic or whatever. But like I said in my previous post, I don't like it when people act like they can make these generalisations and suddenly everything is simple and clear and noone is excluded or confused. Also: I do not mean to exclude the people who say "it's fanfic if you say it is and it feels like fanfic" because they feel excluded by other definitions (including the ones that suit my stuff better) Really what bugs me is the implication that "it's fanfic if and only if you say it is and it feels like fanfic".
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Most people are talking about fanfic but since I mostly make comics, that's what I'm mostly talking about (EDIT: See also All things to everyone about how if the standards you set don't make sense for fanart you're not being very helpful). And this is most definitely a way of me venting my irrational defensiveness. There are some genuine criticisms mixed in there too, but at the moment I'm not feeling objective enough to ferret them out!
My problem with this argument:
Not everyone who make a work feels certain if it's a fanwork or not, or even necessarily cares that much until they have to ask themselves "Is it ok to post this to the AO3?" or whatever. I realise people don't mean it that way, and I'm not sure how much of this is irrational defensiveness, but whenever anyone says "Well, as long as it feels like fanfic and was made for a fannish community" I don't feel more included but less.
Really important point: I have no better way of deciding what goes into the archive, or what counts as fanfic or whatever. But like I said in my previous post, I don't like it when people act like they can make these generalisations and suddenly everything is simple and clear and noone is excluded or confused. Also: I do not mean to exclude the people who say "it's fanfic if you say it is and it feels like fanfic" because they feel excluded by other definitions (including the ones that suit my stuff better) Really what bugs me is the implication that "it's fanfic if and only if you say it is and it feels like fanfic".
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