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"Hmm. Personally I think pro-children and anti-children attitudes are spread pretty evenly between feminists and non-feminists, just that the reasons and emphasis are different. The importance of keeping population up is a very old, pre feminist idea which people hold for lots of reasons. Look at all the "make babies!" religious conservatives, and the baby bonus was brought in by a pretty unfeminist government."

But the baby bonus was touted as a way the government was helping families and working mothers- very feminist ideas.


"Like strangedave I find this a bit disturbing. What do you mean by it?"

I think that in some cases that abortion should be the way to go to prevent the suffering of the child. I see no reason why someone should be allowed to go to full term if the baby is going to be in great physical pain and will live for only a few hours or days. I think it isn't fair for a child to be brought into the world only to suffer. I do not mean that a termination should take place if the reasons for it can be changed once the child is born but rather in those rare circumstances where it is a hopeless case, why should a parent force a child to live a short, fruitless, painful existence? If someone had a child and beat them every hour for two weeks they would be jailed, yet it's ok to keep a child in prolonged suffering because you choose not to have an abortion?

It's a bit like someone who is suffering and in great pain from a terminal illness yet they are bullied into trying more treatment or forced to have more life prolonging drugs because they feel pressure from their family to do so rather than being allowed to stop treatment or alternatively have physican assisted suicide. However an adult can make an informed choice for themselves.

I've written alot more about this elseware (vegan lj groups mainly) but basically I view "quality" of life over "quantity" of life.

"I agree with this completely. Really, it's pretty sexist (and heterosexist), as if women are inherently non threatening."

And yet I have never heard of any feminist organisation complaining about the "Men's" Domestic Violence hotline and the fact all of the advertising for it was aimed at heterosexual men. I do recall a media statement by a GBLT group commenting how violence in homosexual relationships was underreported and this type of advertising would continue to push the stereotype and lead to further silence on the issue.


Whilst I disagree with alot of things that Carol Adams says, she is anti-porn for a start and believes that non-vegetarians are mentally "blocked" and can easily be enlightened to become veg (which is something I thought when I was about 15). I am looking forward to hearing her speak in Germany in July just to see what she has to say.